"Stable" Dual-core and Quad-core Overclocking Results

E8500 on Windows XP SP3 with Cell Shock's 2x1GB Kit


For dual-core processors running the XP operating system, the interesting zone is certainly around 475FSB running in sync mode. Don't be fooled by the memory speed at 950Mhz; remember 1:1 mode allows the most efficient form of data transfer via the MCH. For the Cell Shock modules - which use Micron's top D9GKX DDR2 bin - these speeds are a breeze. What's more, the speed comes at a voltage that the board and modules can easily operate at on a 24/7 basis.

We found that more than 2.15V on our modules was not necessary to hold these speeds 100% stable. The modules are certainly capable of a lot more, but it is nearly impossible to achieve it within warranty specifications. Of course YMMV (Your Mileage May Vary), but in general, if you have good DDR2 modules that are aggressively binned, this is the sweet-spot for operation on this board. We tested with a VMCH (Northbridge Voltage) at a mere 1.3V on our board to hold this setting steady. For us, this represents the greatest level of performance return per watt of energy expenditure.

E8500 with 8GB of OCZ's finest on Vista 64-bit


This was the shocker for us, using 8GB of OCZ memory with a dual-core E8500. The modules only required 1.95V to hold this speed, while VMCH was at 1.4V - both respectable. The read speeds are higher than we have managed on any Intel chipset using 8GB of memory. Sure, this is not mainstream yet, but we think that testing with 8GB offers an opportunity to check a board's stability much more than 2GB configurations. We have seen lower access latency on earlier Striker II BIOS releases; however, the stability was not there at these voltages. Things are a bit more sensible now and the board passed everything we threw at it - including multiple Crysis and PCMark Vantage test runs over the course of the last two weeks. Now the question is what happens when we replace the dual-core with a quad-core processor.

QX9650, 8GB, and Vista 64-bit equals trouble

This is where things enter the twilight zone. Finding stability at higher FSBs with quad-core CPUs can be quite a challenge on the 680i/780i chipset. On the back of our 8GB memory overclocking success using the E8500, we decided to go straight for the jugular and use 8GB of memory with the QX9650. Let's start with what we thought would be a stable configuration.


Although the transition in processors and configurations seems small when you look at the screenshots on the page, it does not show how long it took us to acquire this screenshot. Our initial attempts were all made by trying to dial in all the memory timings ourselves. Eventually we realized that tWTR needs to be very loose when using the QX9650 and set manually to 11 at the minimum. After repeated attempts, we let the board set the rest of the secondary timings via memory SPD. We stumbled across OCCT's base test with a pass, but Crysis failed in its first loop. PCMark Vantage also threw a "fit" when the 3D Gaming test began. We tried everything we could to get 3D stability but no amount of memory timing adjustments or component voltages brought us to the promised land of 3D stability.

The next step was to lower CPU multipliers and reduce CPU speed in order to coax a little more overhead from the Northbridge. Again we failed, all the way down to 3.2GHz when using 1600QFSB (400FSB). As the QX9650 has the advantage of an unlocked multiplier, we decided to use the 10x multi and a lower FSB speed. We even went down to using a 4GB configuration with the 2X2GB modules and found the same overall FSB wall. In the end we found that 3.5GHz with an FSB of 1400QFSB (350MHz) was the highest we could achieve and still pass PCMark Vantage. It seems that FSBs in the region of 400MHz have marginal stability with the quad-core processors when stressed with actual application benchmarks. We ran out of time to test with a 2GB configuration but will include this in part two when we take a close look at the abilities of EVGA's 780i board once we coax it back to life.

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  • glasforex - Tuesday, October 7, 2008 - link

    thanks for the review and thanks guys for the coments. they helped me achive a 400mhz fsb clock(1600) on my e7200 taking it from 2.5-> 3.8Ghz

    example:
    load setup defaults
    manual
    spp-m.. 200
    fsb to mem...linked
    sync mode
    fsb 1600
    mem 800

    c1 state - disable, disable bit - disable...
    and everything there - disable... except use 2 or 4 cores
    auto voltages.

    my vga nvidia 9800GX2.
    It was a significant performance improvement.

    ps: guys remember to load defaults in bios every time before you want to do something with this mobo... strange.
  • Slavek - Thursday, March 20, 2008 - link

    Good day! I would this motherboard: Asus Striker II Formula buy ,but I want know if is power motherboard and if is production of high-quality kit. Thanks
  • Rajinder Gill - Thursday, March 20, 2008 - link

    Hi,

    For dual core processors + if you want to run SLI, this board works fine. If using quad core processors, you really need an unlocked multipler CPU in order to achieve high clock speeds. Despite hearsay, I found the board to work very well using the 1101 BIOS and my E8500. Using this combination of parts left me with nothing to grumble about. Performance in Sync mode at around 475FSB using the 1101 BIOS is fine and does not leave much to be desired IMO.

    regards
    Raja
  • electricx - Saturday, March 22, 2008 - link

    It should be terribly interesting to see what the Striker II Extreme could offer to deal with the quirks this board is presenting. One could speculate quite a bit, especially based on the praise AT has lavished upon the 790i so far. I expect performance bordering on rediculous with a ROG board that I'll never own. But for me it's not about owning, it's about drooling. muhuhhahahahha.
  • Amuro - Friday, March 21, 2008 - link

    In this blog article, Gary Key was able to push the FSB to 450mhz with the QX9650 and BIOS 0901:
    http://www.anandtech.com/weblog/showpost.aspx?i=37...">http://www.anandtech.com/weblog/showpost.aspx?i=37...

    Maybe 1101 is just not for quads.
  • Rajinder Gill - Friday, March 21, 2008 - link

    Hi,

    The 0901 has instability issues in many ways. Other than Everest, there's little else the board will do at 450FSB (even in the 0901 BIOS). The screenshots were only really shown for the low memory access latency. Later on, it was discovered that 450 FSB and the low access latency was nothing more that a pipe-dream for real world application stability.

    regards
    Raja
  • Amuro - Wednesday, March 19, 2008 - link

    I'm using a QX9650 with the Striker II Formula and 4.0Ghz (400x10) is Prime stable with the 0902 BIOS that my board came with. However, with the latest 1101 BIOS, I couldn't even boot into Windows with the same overclock, so I had to revert back to 0902. There's definitely some issues with the 1101 BIOS and QX9650.
  • ianken - Wednesday, March 19, 2008 - link

    other than the NICs failing after resuming from S3, my board has been rock solid.
  • lopri - Wednesday, March 19, 2008 - link

    When can we expect these high speed 2GB DDR2 sticks? Is it possible to let us know what IC will be used for these sticks? (Micron? Powerchips? Infineon? Samsung?) Thank you. ^^

    quote:

    It's also interesting to note that the board behaves quite differently in its reboot cycles and failed overclock recovery when a quad-core CPU is used for testing.

    Endless/uncontrollable reboots? :D
  • skinflickBOB - Thursday, March 20, 2008 - link

    I could not care less about the chips as long as they do what it says on the 'tin'. 1200MHz sounds cool, I would imagine that some of the die advancements from DDR3 are beginning to filter down into DDR2. But like I said, as long as they do 1200MHz - as stated, that's fine for moi..

    later days

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