Impact of Idle Garbage Collection

The other option that Indilinx provides its users to improve used performance is something called idle or background garbage collection. The idea is that without any effort on your or the OS’ part your drive, while idle, will defragment itself.

The feature was actually first introduced by Samsung for its RBB based drives, but I’ll get to the issues with Samsung’s drives momentarily.

It either works by looking at the data on the drive and organizing it into a less fragmented state, or by looking at the file system on the drive and attempting to TRIM based on what it finds. Both Indilinx and Samsung have attempted to implement this sort of idle garbage collection and it appears they do it in different ways. While the end result is the same, how they get there determines the usefulness of this feature.

In the first scenario, this is not simply TRIMing the contents of the drive, the drive doesn’t know what to TRIM; it must still keep track of all data. Instead, the drive is re-organizing its data to maximize performance.

The second scenario requires a compatible file system (allegedly NTFS for the Samsung drives) and then the data is actually TRIMed as it would be with the TRIM instruction.

Details are slim, but the idle garbage collection does work in improving performance:

PCMark Vantage HDD Score New "Used" After TRIM/Idle GC % of New Perf
Corsair P256 (Samsung MLC) 26607 18786 24317 91%

 

Presumably this isn’t without some impact to battery life in a notebook. Furthermore, it’s impossible to tell what impact this has on the lifespan of the drive. If a drive is simply reorganizing data on the fly into a better (higher performing) state, that’s a lot of reads and writes when you’re doing nothing at all. And unfortunately, there’s no way to switch it off.

While Indilinx is following in Samsung's footsteps with enabling idle garbage collection, I believe it's a mistake. Personally, real TRIM support (or at least the wiper tool) is the way to go and it sounds like we’ll be getting it for most if not all of these SSDs in the next couple of months. Idle garbage collection worries me.

The Wiper Tool Early TRIM Support on Indilinx Drives
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  • IPL - Monday, August 31, 2009 - link

    I first started reading anandtech when I got seriously interested in SSDs and honestly, you write the best SSD articles around! Thank you for all the help you gave me in deciding which SSD to buy.

    I ordered online the new G2 last week and should be getting it in a few days. I live in Greece and the re-launched G2 has been available here for about a week now.

    I am planning on replacing the HDD on my Feb 08 Macbook Pro (last refresh pre-unibody) as soon as I get it. I am just a consumer with a little bit of knowledge on tech but not a pro at all. I just thought of asking all a few questions that I have pre-drive swapping.

    1. Will TRIM be supported on macs? Any news if and when?
    2. When then new TRIM firmware is out, do I have to just install the firmware or will I need to format everything and start from fresh in order to get it to work?
    3. I have bought a 2,5'' SATA USB enclosure in order to put my G2 in there first, connect it to the laptop via the USB and install Snow Leopard from there. After I am done, I will remove the G2 from the enclosure, swap the drives and hopefully, everything will be working. Does this sound logical? I am worried about the h/w drivers to be honest.

    Thanks in advance for your help. I will post some non-scientific time results as soon as get this done. Cant wait.
  • gstrickler - Monday, August 31, 2009 - link

    The simplest way to swap the HD on most Mac OS machines is:

    1. Connect both the old and the new drive to the machine (internally or in an external USB or FireWire case).
    2. Use Disk Utility (included in Mac OS X) to set the appropriate partitioning scheme (GUID for Intel based Macs, Apple Partition Scheme for PPC Macs) on the new drive.
    3. Partition and format the new drive.
    4. Use Carbon Copy Cloner (shareware) to clone the old drive to the new drive.
    5. Try booting off the new drive. Note that PPC Macs can't boot from USB drives, but Intel based Macs can. All PPC and Intel Macs with a built-in FireWire port can boot from a FireWire drive.
    6. If not already done, physically swap the drives to the desired locations, boot and set the preferred startup drive.

  • IPL - Tuesday, September 1, 2009 - link

    Awesome, thanks for the help.

    I have checked Carbon Copy Cloner and it is already one of my options. Never tried it before but looked easy enough.

    I havent decided yet which way I will do it (fresh install or clone existing drive) but I will make my mind up when everything is ready!
  • Anand Lal Shimpi - Monday, August 31, 2009 - link

    Thank you for reading and saying such wonderful things, I really do appreciate it :)

    1) I don't believe TRIM is presently supported in Snow Leopard. I've heard that Apple may be working on it but I don't think it's there now.

    2) From what I've seen, it should preserve your data. It's still worth backing up just in case something ridiculous happens.

    3) What you're describing should work, although if I were you I'd just swap the drives and install. Hook your old drive up via USB and pull any data you need off of that.

    Take care,
    Anand
  • sunbear - Monday, August 31, 2009 - link

    Another fantastic article. I just wanted to draw your attention to recent reports that the majority of currently available laptops (including the MacBookPro) are unable to support transfer rates greater than SATA-150 (http://www.hardmac.com/news/2009/06/16/new-macbook...">http://www.hardmac.com/news/2009/06/16/...imited-1....

    Since most laptops can't even use the full performance of these SSD's, do you have any recommendation regarding which one would be the best bang-for-the-buck to speed up a laptop?

    Personally, I am interested in putting SSD's in a laptop not only for the speed improvements, but I'm also hoping that it reduces the amount of heat that my laptop will put out so that I can finally find a laptop that you can use comfortably on your lap!

    Incidentally, it would be really great if laptop reviewers checked to see if they could comfortably work with a laptop at full load on their lap as a standard test.
  • Anand Lal Shimpi - Monday, August 31, 2009 - link

    Even on a SATA-150 interface, you're generally only going to be limiting your sequential read speed and perhaps your sequential write speed a bit. Random read/write speeds don't really go above 60MB/s so you're fine there.

    They recommendations remain the same; Intel at the top end, anything Indilinx MLC to save a bit. If anything, a SATA-150 interface makes the Intel drive look a bit better since its 80MB/s sequential write limit isn't as embarrassing :)

    Take care,
    Anand
  • Dobs - Monday, August 31, 2009 - link

    I hope Seagate / Western Digital etc. bring even more innovation / competition in SSD's next year... and not just Enterprise products.

    And one thing I don't fully understand is why there aren't more dedicated 3.5" drives. Patriot has the adapter but what about the rest??? No money in desktops anymore???
  • Anand Lal Shimpi - Monday, August 31, 2009 - link

    OCZ is making a 3.5" Vertex drive, waiting on it for review :)

    Take care,
    Anand
  • kisjoink - Monday, August 31, 2009 - link

    Now that the good performing SSDs are half the price of last year, I'd really like to see a 2xSSD in RAID 0 article!
  • mgrmgr - Monday, August 31, 2009 - link

    I second the request for a 2xSSD RAID-0 article...with specific discussions about which applications it benefits (Photoshop?) and which ones it doesn't.

    Before October 22nd when I buy a new Win7 computer? Please. :-)

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