Impact of Idle Garbage Collection

The other option that Indilinx provides its users to improve used performance is something called idle or background garbage collection. The idea is that without any effort on your or the OS’ part your drive, while idle, will defragment itself.

The feature was actually first introduced by Samsung for its RBB based drives, but I’ll get to the issues with Samsung’s drives momentarily.

It either works by looking at the data on the drive and organizing it into a less fragmented state, or by looking at the file system on the drive and attempting to TRIM based on what it finds. Both Indilinx and Samsung have attempted to implement this sort of idle garbage collection and it appears they do it in different ways. While the end result is the same, how they get there determines the usefulness of this feature.

In the first scenario, this is not simply TRIMing the contents of the drive, the drive doesn’t know what to TRIM; it must still keep track of all data. Instead, the drive is re-organizing its data to maximize performance.

The second scenario requires a compatible file system (allegedly NTFS for the Samsung drives) and then the data is actually TRIMed as it would be with the TRIM instruction.

Details are slim, but the idle garbage collection does work in improving performance:

PCMark Vantage HDD Score New "Used" After TRIM/Idle GC % of New Perf
Corsair P256 (Samsung MLC) 26607 18786 24317 91%

 

Presumably this isn’t without some impact to battery life in a notebook. Furthermore, it’s impossible to tell what impact this has on the lifespan of the drive. If a drive is simply reorganizing data on the fly into a better (higher performing) state, that’s a lot of reads and writes when you’re doing nothing at all. And unfortunately, there’s no way to switch it off.

While Indilinx is following in Samsung's footsteps with enabling idle garbage collection, I believe it's a mistake. Personally, real TRIM support (or at least the wiper tool) is the way to go and it sounds like we’ll be getting it for most if not all of these SSDs in the next couple of months. Idle garbage collection worries me.

The Wiper Tool Early TRIM Support on Indilinx Drives
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  • minime - Tuesday, September 1, 2009 - link

    Thanks for that, but still, this is not quite a real business test, right?
  • Live - Monday, August 31, 2009 - link

    Great article! Again I might add.

    Just a quick question:

    In the article it says all Indilinx drives are basically the same. But there are 2 controllers:
    Indilinx IDX110M00-FC
    Indilinx IDX110M00-LC

    What's the difference?
  • yacoub - Monday, August 31, 2009 - link

    If Idle Garbage Collection cannot be turned off, how can it be called "[Another] option that Indilinx provides its users"? If it's not optional, it's not an option. :(
  • Anand Lal Shimpi - Monday, August 31, 2009 - link

    Well it's sort of optional since you had to upgrade to the idle GC firmware to enable it. That firmware has since been pulled and I've informed at least one of the companies involved of the dangers associated with it. We'll see what happens...

    Take care,
    Anand
  • helloAnand - Monday, August 31, 2009 - link

    Anand,

    The best way to test compiler performance is compiling the compiler itself ;). GCC has an enormous test suite (I/O bound) to boot. Building it on windows is complicated, so you can try compiling the latest version on the mac.
  • Anand Lal Shimpi - Monday, August 31, 2009 - link

    Hmm I've never played with the gcc test suite, got any pointers you can email me? :)

    Take care,
    Anand
  • UNHchabo - Tuesday, September 1, 2009 - link

    Compiling almost anything on Visual Studio also tends to be IO-bound, so you could try that as well.
  • CMGuy - Wednesday, September 2, 2009 - link

    We've got a few big java apps at work and the compile times are heavily I/O bound. Like it takes 30 minutes to build on a 15 disk SAN array (The cpu usage barely gets above 30%). Got a 160Gig G2 on order, very much looking forward to benchmarking the build on it!
  • CMGuy - Sunday, October 11, 2009 - link

    Finally got an X25-m G2 to benchmark our builds on. What was previously a 30 minute build on a 15 disk SAN array in a server has become a 6.5 minute build on my laptop.
    The real plus has come when running multiple builds simultaneously. Previously 2 builds running together would take around 50 minutes to complete (not great for Continuous Integration). With the intel SSD - 10 minutes and the bottleneck is now the CPU. I see more cores and hyperthreading in my future...
  • Ipatinga - Monday, August 31, 2009 - link

    Another great article about SSD, Anand. Big as always, but this is not just a SSD review or roundup. It´s a SSD class.

    Here are my points about some stuff:

    1 - Correct me if I´m wrong, but as far as capacity goes, this is what I know:

    - Manufacturers says their drive has 80GB, because it actually has 80GB. GB comes from GIGA, wich is a decimal unit (base 10).

    - Microsoft is dumb, so Windows follows it, and while the OS says your 80GB drive has 74,5GB, it should say 80GB (GIGA). When windows says 74,5, it should use Gi (Gibi), wich is a binary unit).

    - To sum up, with a 80GB drive, Windows should say it has 80GB or 74,5GiB.

    - A SSD from Intel has more space than it´s advertised 80GB (or 74,5GiB), and that´s to use as a spare area. That´s it. Intel is smart for using this (since the spare area is, well, big and does a good job for wear and performance over sometime).

    2 - I wonder why Intel is holding back on the 320GB X25-M... just she knows... it must be something dark behind it...

    Maybe, just maybe, like in a dream, Intel could be working on a 320GB X25-M that comes with a second controller (like a mirror of the one side pcb it has now). This would be awesome... like the best RAID 0 from two 160GB, in one X25-M.

    3 - Indilinx seems to be doing a good job... even without TRIM support at it´s best, the garbage cleaning system is another good tool to add to a SSD. Maybe with TRIM around, the garbage cleaning will become more like a "SSD defrag".

    4 - About the firmware procedure in Indilinx SSD goes, as far as I know, some manufacturers use the no-jumper scheme to make easier the user´s life, others offer the jumper scheme (like G.Skill on it´s Falcon SSD) to get better security: if the user is using the jumper and the firmware update goes bad, the user can keep flashing the firmware without any problem. Without the jumper scheme, you better get lucky if things don´t go well on the first try. Nevertheless, G.Skill could put the SSD pins closer to the edge... to put a jumper in those pins today is a pain in the @$$.

    5 - I must ask you Anand, did you get any huge variations on the SSD benchmarks? Even with a dirty drive, the G.Skill Falcon (I tested) sometimes perform better than when new (or after wiper). The Benchmarks are Vantage, CrystalMark, HD Tach, HD Tune.... very weird. Also, when in new state, my Vantage scores are all around in all 8 tests... sometimes it´s 0, sometimes it´s 50, sometimes it´s 100, sometimes it´s 150 (all thousand)... very weird indeed.

    6 - The SSD race today is very interesting. Good bye Seagate and WD... kings of HD... Welcome Intel, Super Talent, G.Skill, Corsair, Patriot, bla bla bla. OCZ is also going hard on SSD... and I like to see that. Very big line of SSD models for you to choose and they are doind a good job with Indilinx.

    7 - Samsung? Should be on the edge of SSD, but manage to loose the race on the end user side. No firmware update system? You gotta be kidding, right? Thank good for Indilinx (and Intel, but there is not TRIM for G1... another mistake).

    8 - And yes... SSD rocks (huge performance benefit on a notebook)... even though I had just one weekend with them. Forget about burst speed... SSD crushes hard drives where it matters, specially sequencial read/write and low latency.

    - Let me finish here... this comment is freaking big.

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