Dual Core Intel Platform Shootout - NVIDIA nForce4 vs. Intel 955X
by Anand Lal Shimpi on April 14, 2005 1:01 PM EST- Posted in
- CPUs
Final Words
Both Intel's 955X and NVIDIA's nForce4 SLI Intel Edition chipsets are expected to be available in motherboards by the end of this month. With that being said, which platform do you go for? Both contenders are quite strong. NVIDIA has the benefits of out-of-the-box SLI support, support for more PATA devices and better NCQ performance than Intel's 955X. On the other hand, Intel has HD Audio support, official support for TM2 on dual core processors and performance that's just as good as NVIDIA in most cases, at a lower price.
We'd give the edge to NVIDIA because of their strong NCQ performance and support for SLI, but those two items aren't necessarily on everyone's shopping list. For a lot of people, SLI is too big of an investment and a lower priced motherboard is far more desirable, not to mention support for TM2 on dual core CPUs for a cooler, quieter system.
The fact that this decision is so very hard is a testament to NVIDIA's strength as a chipset manufacturer. In fact, we've never seen anyone threaten Intel with nearly identical specifications, nearly as much as NVIDIA has with their nForce4 SLI Intel Edition.
In the end, the decision will undoubtedly come down to shipping motherboards - and whether or not motherboard manufacturers are able to enable TM2 support on their nForce4 boards. If they are able to, then we'd have no problem giving NVIDIA the clear win here. Their performance is competitive and they have strengths that exceed those of Intel.
Intel's CPU team should be happy. They have found an extremely complementary partner in NVIDIA. However, Intel's chipset team has reason to worry; motherboard manufacturers weren't happy with the 925/915 chipsets, and with a viable alternative in NVIDIA, we may very well have an opportunity for NVIDIA to start eating into Intel's own chipset market share in a way that no other company has in the past.
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xsilver - Thursday, April 14, 2005 - link
oh and before when you were arguing about heat --- if you didnt understand... let me translate the graph segagenesis providedamd 64 3500 at load = 114w
intel 550, 3.4ghz /load = 207w
that's close to DOUBLE power consumption with similar performance/price characteristics.
xsilver - Thursday, April 14, 2005 - link
#54I remember reading amd's 3 year roadmap right here on AT.... maybe you missed it
3 year roadmaps aren't very good anyways, they provide no real hard information.... what are you worried that amd isn't going to exist in 3 years???
what AT people here are arguing is about performance... now you have jumped from heat output to spelling to performance and now to company profile... please be concise
Questar - Thursday, April 14, 2005 - link
"The only defense I imagine he could possibly conjure up right now is currently in the market there is the "Nobody got fired for buying Intel" mentality where companies and such are wary of trying non-Intel products mainly because... Dell and other major manufacturers wont offer it in any quantity."Actually there are two reasons:
1) Qualification costs. it can be easy to drop $150k to qualify a new platform.
2) Product longevity. Change is very expensive to large corporations. Anything we make a commitment to buy must have a lifespan of at least 18 months from the date we qualify the product. We also must be comfortable with the companies 3 year product roadmap. So far there are no teir one vendors that have AMD product lines that meet these requirements.
Questar - Thursday, April 14, 2005 - link
NVIDIA changed the spelling of their name from nVidia to NVIDIA a few years ago, have a look at NVIDIA's home page for confirmation - http://www.nvidia.com/page/companyinfo.htmlQuestar: NVIDIA is the correct corporate capitalization of the company. I actually don't think I've ever seen it spelled "nVidia".
I stand corrected. Thank you.
glennpratt - Thursday, April 14, 2005 - link
I think you mean you disagree with his first statement, since his last statement was about DDR2. Personally, I assume reviews on this site are talking to me (PC enthusiast) and not businesses (except reviews which explicitly state otherwise which are few and far between here). In that context, Anand has a point.KristopherKubicki - Thursday, April 14, 2005 - link
Questar: NVIDIA is the correct corporate capitalization of the company. I actually don't think I've ever seen it spelled "nVidia".Kristopher
Motley - Thursday, April 14, 2005 - link
Perhaps it should have been worded differently like... offered performance benefits that have only yet to be realized. But as worded, it is misleading and incorrect. Obviously, I read your site often, and I have come to expect technical correctness in what you write ;-)That said, I still would have to disagree with your last statement. Where companies purchase and keep PC's around for 3+ years (OMG, I wish we got rid of PC's in 3 years), the ability to purchase PCI-E when it came out knowing that we could upgrade them to iSCSI, etc in the future *IS* a very tangable benefit. At home, it's a different story, where my motherboard changes with every major change (or every other as money permits).
BaronVonAwesome - Thursday, April 14, 2005 - link
You have to be leery of anyone who resorts to juvenile symantics in an argument. When Questar derided another person for using the word "worthless" to describe Intel, you had to ignore him. Obviously, "worthless" wasn't meant literally. That's one of the wonders of the English language, the way it evolves, with words taking on more subtle meanings through the gradual societal acceptance of colloquialisms and slang. Words like "worthless" also lose their qualitative and quantitative qualities through this evolution...depending on how the word is used of course. Generally, when people resort to literal symantics, they feel like they are losing the argument. Reminds me of when Bill Clinton questioned the definition of the word "is." Questar's back was against the wall, I guess.glennpratt - Thursday, April 14, 2005 - link
On another note will there be a non-SLI version of the nF4 Intel Ed.?glennpratt - Thursday, April 14, 2005 - link
Questar - This may have been said before, but I didn't read this whole thread.Reviews are generally filled with opinion, it's the nature of the beast. If you wanted an Intel white paper well this isn't the place for it. If you've taken a high school level english class then you should be quite capable of determining opinion from fact in common english.