Asus P4S800D-E Deluxe & Gigabyte 8S655TX Ultra: SiS 655TX Challenges Intel's Best
by Wesley Fink on December 9, 2003 1:52 PM EST- Posted in
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Final Words
There are many computer enthusiasts who would consider the SiS655-based Gigabyte SINXP one of the best motherboards ever made. It was a favorite board of many computer enthusiasts, including this reviewer, and an incredible performer for its time. This sounds like ancient history, but it was actually only earlier this year that the SINXP was dominating many benchmarks. Then it looked like SiS died. Their first effort at 800FSB Dual-Channel, the SiS655FX, was a disappointment. It was just not competitive with motherboards based on the Intel 865/875 chipset.It looks like reports of SiS fading from the Intel market were certainly premature. Both the Asus P4S800D-E and Gigabyte 8S655TX Ultra perform as well or better than any current Intel chipset motherboard for the Pentium 4. Add to this the fact that both boards also fully support the upcoming Prescott, deliver 2 channels of Dual-Channel memory (4 64-bit dimms) running in fast 128-bit mode, offer memory ratios not even imagined on Intel boards, and fully support HyperThreading. This adds up to a formidable chipset that delivers great performance at a bargain price. In our benchmarks, both SiS655TX boards, without PAT, outperformed a top 875p board with the fastest timings and PAT enabled. That is performance worth looking at, regardless of price. The fact that SIS655TX is cheaper is just icing on the cake.
Both these boards are loaded with top-end features, but will sell for around $100 instead of the much higher prices asked for Intel-chipset boards. If you never overclock, then either of these boards will do a great job for you and represent outstanding value. On the other hand, many enthusiasts have discovered that current Intel P4 processors overclock very well — some make it to extraordinary overclocks, some 50% higher than rated speed. These potential buyers will want to know how the SiS655TX overclocks and how it compares with the best Intel boards. In the overclocking capabilities, these two boards do perform very differently.
In the case of the Asus P4S800D-E, the overclocking is excellent and only getting better. With the latest 023 BIOS, we were able to reach 267 (1068 FSB) at default voltage and reached an overclock of over 3.6GHz on air cooling with no voltage increase. The performance at these overclocks was every bit the equal of the best motherboards based on Intel chipsets. The Asus makes no apologies for performance, and its overclocking is excellent. For a 2.6GHz or faster P4, the Asus will allow you to squeeze all the performance possible form your CPU. For now, a really good 2.4 may find the highest FSB lacking, but this will likely be improved with additional BIOS updates.
The Gigabyte 8S655TX Ultra, on the other hand, is a pretty poor overclocker compared to the best Intel chipset boards. If you have a 3.0 or faster, you will likely find enough reserve to give a nice performance boost, but more than that is just not here. With the current BIOS, the Gigabyte is just nowhere near the equal of the Asus in the areas that matter most to the Computer Enthusiast. The board is very fast, and perhaps Gigabyte will make dramatic improvements with BIOS updates, but as it is now benchmarking, we have a tough time recommending the Gigabyte for anyone planning to overclock their processor.
We congratulate SiS on a job well done. The SiS755 is an impressive chipset for the Athlon64, and the 655TX brings Intel the first real competition that they have seen since the 800FSB Pentium 4 was introduced. If you are looking for a Pentium 4 board, you should take a close look at the performance and features of motherboards based on the SiS655TX. They are a great value and you give up absolutely nothing in performance to other solutions. If you're a Computer Enthusiast who plans to overclock and wants top performance, then buy the Asus P4S800D-E. There isn't a better value currently available in a full-featured motherboard that can compete with any motherboard that you can buy for your Pentium 4 or Socket 478 Prescott.
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FFS - Wednesday, December 10, 2003 - link
Q? to Wesley does these mobos have control of CPU fan speed (again like MSI Neo2), so it run more slow with low CPU load (= more silent)?Another one is how it's compatible with Radeon 9700 Pro? F.e. My SIS648 even with latest SIS-AGP drivers have have a conflict with Hercules R9700Pro when Fast Write is turned on...
Competition is G R E A T E thing,... but you know we also want stability :))) So far, as I know Intel chipsets before were far more stable and compatible with other hardware...
The bottom line "as fast" does not always mean "as good"... :(( And since I also love competition let's hope that SIS655TX as good as 875P.
ripdude - Wednesday, December 10, 2003 - link
A good article on a serie of good boards, I'm very happy you took the P4C800-E dlx in the test.I'm more then happy with the increased competition these boards bring, the P4C800-e dlx is still about 199 in euro land.
SmoiL - Wednesday, December 10, 2003 - link
When is the Asus P4S800D-E coming out? Nada on pricewatchWesley Fink - Wednesday, December 10, 2003 - link
Several of the cells in the Feature Table on page 3 were reversed and have now been corrected.Dual Channel (2x64 bit) is called 128 bit mode on the SiS. The BIOS has the option to run 128-bit (Dual-Channel) mode or to force Dual 64-bit.
FFS - Tuesday, December 9, 2003 - link
Also, as I remember VIA VT6307 support 3 (not 2) 1394a FireWire ports (as on MSI Neo boards), so why Gigabyte would cut them to 2 ???And besides Wesley always trying to stress out color-coded panel connectors.
For me it's more important that you can change RAM without taking off videocard and ASUS had such problems with some of their mobos (now it looks better... but talking about overclocking ... hmmmm.
Even it's damn stable: heatsink on ASUS SiS 655TX is passive (already -) and too close to CPU (plus wrong orientation - same mistake as with original
P4C800 Deluxe. So - NO oversized cooler for CPU on this board.
FFS - Tuesday, December 9, 2003 - link
Realtek ALC658 codec AC '97 2.36-Channel with UAJ Shoud go to Gigabyte and vice versa...
Oh well.., I had my SIS648 for a while and .. so now I'd rather prefer to pay eXtra for board with Intel chipset :((
Plus Gigabit LAN will work faster(=better) with CSA...
FFS - Tuesday, December 9, 2003 - link
Hey guys... In the features table on-board audio codecs are mixed up :)Shalmanese - Tuesday, December 9, 2003 - link
Er, I don't think Sis supports 33Mhz Memory speeds... (pg 5) ;).What happened to the tech support turnaround time bit? That was always the favourite part of your reviews.
Tokelil - Tuesday, December 9, 2003 - link
On page 3 it says its the Gigabyte MB that uses the Marvel Gigabit controller, while on page 4 it says its the asus board that uses the Marvel controller... My guess is it is Asus that uses it and its wrong on page 3.FishTankX - Tuesday, December 9, 2003 - link
What on earth is the difference?There is no commercially avaliable 128 bit DDRSDRAM. All DDRSDRAM is 64 bit.